The last known photo of F-4C 64-0755, the Phantom flown in this article. Many times not all returned from their missions. Its a tough story to take. I grew up with Thomas Guenther from Mass who also piloted an F-4 in RVN and NVN. God Bless you F-4 drivers! Hayden Lockhart was the first Air Force pilot to fall into North Vietnamese hands. The Dash-1 (USAF How to Fly the F-4 book) technique to accomplish this feat was to have the control stick fully aft (T.O. In burner, diving out of 20, didnt take long to head toward So China Sea. Joe. Had it not been for President Nixon and the sheer courage of the B-52 and tactical aircrews, the POWs would never have returned. Pilots would be hollering for this and for thatand there was NOTHING I could do. Just as we were positioning ourselves for the right-hand turn at Bravo, the lead aircraft unexpectedly turned to the left. The concept that Vietnamese people who had conquered most of SE Asia and fought off numerous invasions by Chinese dynasties for centuries would be cowed and exhausted by the haphazard application of US air power was the result of historical ignorance and superpower arrogance. Wonderful story. Now I know a little bit more about what he did. There will always be those who dont get it. Theyd blow up in midair, before they ever got to the runway. Call signs for each mission were based on time of day. Glad you made it home safe after 6 years in the north. Phew! I imagined the instrument of death: a bullet, a knife, a shovel, hammer, pick, axe At that moment, I felt a long, cool piece of steel slide between my throat and my helmet strap. The control stick was lazily wandering left and right; the throttles were all the way forward in the full afterburner position but there was no thrust coming from the J-79s. Without any electronic gear onboard to warn us of active SAM sites, there was no way for us to know that at that very moment a Soviet-built SA-2 missile was streaking its way towards our Phantom from directly behind us, Dead 6 oclock, in fighter pilot lingo. Sad to hear that your Dad didnt tell you much about his missions. Since 366thTFW maintenance was overtaxed having to do all of its around-the-clock 24/7 functions, the flight leader had to turn down two airplanes before he found one that was combat ready and airworthy. They were all well received. Even at max takeoff weight, Scotty had to be careful not to exceed the landing gear limit airspeed of 250 knots with both afterburners cooking. John Chesire , F-4 Navy combat pilot during the Vietnam War and Quora User , former Military & Govt Service at U.S. Air ForceAuthor has 633 answers and 913.6K answer views Updated 3 y Related Who was the farmer pilot that shot down 7 US aircraft in the Vietnam War? Sir, the airplane was in a SAM break two days ago. They would persistently be trying to attack me while the militia men unemotionally fended them off. May God comfort those families who still wait and wonder.]. How many f4 were shot down? You need four for effective mutual support; i.e., lookout coverage for all four in all quadrants. Fritz was Nape. Thanks for your story, Joe. Like the Flat-Earthers who still dont believe we landed on the Moon. I found out what its like to be a zoo animal except nobody threw me any peanuts. 1F-4C-1, Change 1, page 2-20) before reaching 30 knots below calculated nose wheel liftoff speed. Jan 12, 06:12 PM. Although I was only a few thousand feet away, I hadnt been able to hear the explosion. Spooky came in after that and made a few passes. As a former volunteer at the NMUSAF and the son of a now deceased USAAF WWII combat vet, I have always known that our country and our armed forces have been blessed with seemingly ordinary, matter-of-fact guys who do extraordinary things. Million-dollar wound some would call it through the knee, with the bones barely nicked. Vietnam will eventually strive throughout S.E. Jeffrey Ethell and Alfred Price wrote a great book about this day called "One Day in a Long War, May 10, 1972, Air War, North Vietnam" that describes in detail events of that day. Charles Barbin DeBellevue successfully shot down a North Vietnamese-flown Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 from their McDonnell Douglas F-4D Phantom II. The flight call sign was Dogwood and we were number 2. Moments later, the controller asked us to change our squawk, so we could be located for a skyspot drop. But, instead of cutting through my throat, as Id imagined, the blade moved away, cutting the helmet strap. Jim witnessed the other pilot CW2 Richard Bauman and crew chief Craig Dix being captured. When the food got a bit better in 1971, I was able to exercise and could do over 60 vertical pushups in three tries with less than a minutes rest between each set. God Bless America; God Bless the USAF; God Bless the Pilots and God Bless the POWs! The Republic of Vietnam lost 1,018 aircraft and helicopters from January 1964 to September 1973. Thanks for the story, Joe. Wasnt much left for my remaining Six. The icing on the cake came when he admitted to the controller that he did not know his position, because his tacan was spooling; he didnt realize we were out of tacan range. The bomb release button was now hot! Hope you sre enjoying the golden years. Not sure which squadron he started with but he ended up assigned to the 366-tfw. I would have done the same thing. After that we had our individual flight briefings. To you gentlemen; Brett, Tim, Wade, Gordon, Cliff, Neil, Andy and Jerry who responded to the reprint of my 2017 article, Shot Down Over North Vietnam, I thank you for your kind remarks and expressions of patriotism. Meadows Notes. I met and liked John Dremesi whose experience was the same as yours. A C-47 was the very first USAF aircraft lost in the SEA conflict, C-47B 44-76330 (315th Air Division) on TDY at Vientiane, Laos which was shot down by the Pathet Lao on 23 March 1961 killing 7 of the 8 crewmen. I am unable to understand why I didnt feel dazed by all of the blows to the head Id received. On Sept. 12, 1968, F-100D pilot Capt. The first morning mission was "Misty 11" would be replaced by "Misty 21" then "Misty 31" and . Having been a teenager in Vietnam years, I had a Vietnam map on my bedroom wall and marked bombing missions that Cronkite would report that night. Joe I want to start by thanking you profusely for attending and speaking at my brother Johns funeral 3 years ago. Was the F 14 used in Vietnam? At least thats what I hoped. No one shot at him. The United States lost 578 UAVs (554 over Vietnam and 24 over China). How gracious of you to say semper fi; I believe we are brothers in the F4 community. But, I knew the SA-2 was a powerful weapon; 400 lbs. He still had the baleful look of an owl about to gobble a mouse. The Navy had it right (mostly) in equipping, training and tailoring tactical air assets. It was great to get back to the sweltering heat, I gotta tell ya. I received my draft notice right after I joined the USAF. And I still think of that crash not itself something that caused a loss of life, but something that reminds me of how significant the memory of wounded F-4 pilots, limping back to base in badly-damaged airplanes, was, and is, to those who served during the Vietnam war. American airmen shot down 196 MiGs137 by the Air Force, 59 by the Navy and the Marine Corpsand sustained 83 losses. Suddenly, I was lifted from the floor. William Reeder Jr., who served two tours in Vietnam as a U.S. Army pilot, was shot down on May 9, 1972, while flying a mission in a Bell AH-1 Cobra helicopter. In Reply to B. Fearn by the author of Shot Down Over North Vietnam, War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. 2013. I will tell the story of Scotty and you and will encourage my son to never forget! It was a moving story. It was great to see you as our paths crossed as we travel the world. At the most fundamental level, we failed to evaluate the reasons why Germany, Korea, Vietnam and others were divided at the end of WWII. Enjoyed your recollections Joe C. I was an Army Helicopter Crew Chief/Mechanic at Camp Eagle near Hue, Phu Bai then Danang MM Airfield, RVN 71-72. Lt. Wilson and his family paid the ultimate sacrifice for their country. List of aircraft losses of the Vietnam War. The terror I felt just moments before vanished. So, with that, you have to question the command and leadership, not the foot soldier. I reached bingo, bingo minus 5, minus 10, minus 15, and reported to lead each time. First loss: Canberra A84-231 disappeared on 3 November 1970 on a night bombing mission in the northern 1st Corps Tactical Zone region of. Manacles were locked onto my wrists as well. Sobering reading for every American ! The Royal Australian Air Force also flew combat and airlift missions in South Vietnam, as did the Republic of Vietnam. My mom, as she promised my father she would, visited my fathers grave at the National Cemetery in Grand Prairie on Saturday, left an American Flag, which, regardless of whether or not the boy scouts or other volunteers do, as they sometimes do and sometimes dont, shes done for the previous 10 Memorial Days. Did a Korea tour also when enlisted. I think of Scotty Wilson and many others every, single day. [5], Claimed by VPAF: 154 MiG aircraft lost through all causes, including 131 in air combat (includes 63 MiG-17s, 8 MiG-19s and 60 MiG-21s)[21][22]. Im glad you made it home. First loss: 1964, final loss: 1967. He summed up his experience in Vietnam as It was f****d. You guys are the best we have. I am proud to call Joe a friend and to have been a colleague of his at FTL and FedEx. The Douglas A-1E Skyraider (U.S. Navy BuNo 132649) at the National Museum of the United States Air Force (Dayton, Ohio, USA) is the airplane flown by Maj. Bernard Fisher on 10 March 1966, when he rescued a fellow pilot shot down over South Vietnam in the midst of enemy troops. I told him to head SE so I could spot him out of the circular traffic jam. If the MiGs didnt come up, he couldnt have a chance to shoot one down. Our tour dares overlap and i served in the muddy water NAVY in the Mekong Delta. We beneficiaries need to know the experiences, sufferings, challenges, life and death, victories and miraculous acts of God in the lives of our fellow countrymen in war, especially from their own voice and pen before the stories are gone. 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